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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
评论里打分的男人要么提着电影摆出高傲的姿态点评女权和女拳的区别，要么闭口不提电影的核心价值观说它太过做作，为什么男人（包括生理和心理的）总是这样令人厌恶，连说话打字都溢出一股独特的臭味，你啥也不是懂吗？
就这？？？除了连环套娃够猎奇之外也太无聊了🥱
看未来罪行觉得没看到什么东西的人，一定不要错过这部。之前看开拓者很生气。现在我觉得也许我误解了加兰？也许他就是想呈现所谓弥赛亚的自私和自大呢？？？女主看到了“我不想剧透”的那一幕惊悚场景之后，她竟然就平静了，甚至有点可怜那一套东西。加兰对音乐的运用也是服气的，这里面的四个音符和湮灭里的惊悚音乐，这辈子都忘不了了。女主演之前的我想结束这一切也很好，还有一个关于女性内心暴力的电影，好像叫野兽还是什么。这个女演员真的赞。看到一些评论试图用女权不女权来解读这个电影，但是显然某些人也根本不知道女权是什么。国内的男性还是停留在女权就是女人想得到更多好处更多保护。当然这也没错。但是不止于此。就如使女的故事，第四季的主题是以牙还牙以眼还眼，想了解女权的男性应该看看。
補標4.5顆✨，一部充分展露男性真實陰暗面的cult恐怖片，中途由於冒冷汗，感到極度不適，暫停了觀影許多次。無論任何人（尤其是女性）都能在生活裡從周圍男性身上看見他們典型的人格特質，無論是拒絕divorce威脅家暴無果後跳樓的亡夫、一臉忠厚樣客氣卻笑裡藏刀的男房東、尾隨女主闖入私宅的暴露癖、具有攻擊性的問題少年、古板偽善（厭女又渴pussy）試圖強姦女主的牧師、隨處可見（認為女性受害者總是小題大做）十分masculine的男警官💁🏻♀️……預定年度最佳恐怖片🫣。
这部电影看完，不知道说啥。
惊悚暗喻！调色美！用最唯美的画面展现最细思极恐的故事，教堂中的女性器官和男性面貌压抑到窒息，不论是南拳社会的宗教，幼稚的巨婴男童，道德制高点给予人们信仰的牧师，伪善的房东还是婚姻控制狂的丈夫…各层次对女性的迫害，而他们可以无限滋生，换来的却是因为爱…这才是女性恐惧的根源啊
层层包裹、恶性自体增殖的男性性欲最后吐出来一个精心包装试图利用女性同理心和负疚感的“我要你的爱”
前面画面真的非常舒适。恰恰就是这种舒适和后半段的怪诞拉成了强烈对比，简直是窒息式的全方位的“男人”。血腥细节纤毫毕现，真敢拍啊！
把女性对男性的恐惧原因以及男权无形的压迫构成，放大、拆解又表现出来，影像风格很赞，这个女性视角也是没想到加兰表现得这么好。就是这个放大解构得太明显惹…
6.6分左右。
加兰（本身就是“花环”哈）真是很会拍植物/静物那种幽静诡异的美。这部的美感似乎比湮灭更胜一筹。配乐也很加兰，风格逐渐固定突出好辩识。最后的奇观确实让人发指，有一种无法直视是慢悠悠地特写皮开肉绽。更无法直视的可能是选角：不仅男主复制出了N个，男主和女主这两个人也长得非常像，放在这样的故事里诡异感指数级增加 …
年度影片！
我觉得Garland学Ari Aster学岔了，前半段有太多inconsistent的意象和空镜头。还好摄影优秀没被不明所以的剪辑给埋没。喜欢展现出来现代关系中的manipulation比暴力更让人反胃，相较而言某些只象征slut shaming的分身反而显得弱了。
摄影不错，但剧本不行，情节推进太慢，比《湮灭》差得太远了，25分钟弃剧。
一个借助影像手段的表现艺术作品。作为电影观感不佳，建议避开。
日常生活比这个还恐怖。他只是要爱，还不是要命。
展示了女性 是如何在男性的压迫阴霾之下… 厌男…
我看到的隐喻：裸男的蒲公英-男人SJ、牧师-意淫口嗨伪君子、警察-强权压迫、丈夫-肢体暴力情感绑架威胁 面具男stupid bitch-网络及现实言语暴力攻击。何以解忧？唯有斧子。心理暗示类精神恐惧片 还不错-96 虽然用非要独自一人去乡下放假 走山洞这种无脑又老掉牙的套路但去描写女性的角度可加分
氛围有了，情节有了，观众要的spectacle也有了。可以说是cult片中的邪典，男人套娃生娃确实震撼，但归根结底，恐惧还是源于人的内心。7.5/10
评论里打分的男人要么提着电影摆出高傲的姿态点评女权和女拳的区别，要么闭口不提电影的核心价值观说它太过做作，为什么男人（包括生理和心理的）总是这样令人厌恶，连说话打字都溢出一股独特的臭味，你啥也不是懂吗？
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