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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
起承转合都很标准的电影，这代美国左派缺少了锐意进取的反思，更多的是对反抗的歌颂
今天下午大家一起看完之后，第一个反应就是“爽片”，怎么爽怎么拍，或者说，剪。真的是一场大型政治MV，就像片中所说的political trial一样。政治是所有事情的阻力，又如春药一般让一个时代蓬勃。我们讨论说，如果生活在那个时代，一定是很惨的，但站在当下的立场，我们愿意回看过去：因为现在从某种程度上讲，更惨。
21-179. 對話太多太密集…剪輯感覺有點亂，get不到
群戏比较出彩 对话痨厌烦者和对美国60上世纪60年代末的民权运动不了解的观众不是很友好 总之对于当下美国的现实 算是很应景的一部电影了
法律是神圣的，并非其生而神圣，而是因为在制定与解读法律的过程中，会体现出人性中神圣的一面。
索金大大赛高！索金出品，就一个字，好！！！电影表达非常好。除此之外这个案子本身也挺有现实意义的。看了半个小时我已经气得掀桌了，看完查到这个法官在此案后又干了13年一直到死，更加气愤了！而且74年的一项调查显示在此案之前他在芝加哥律师那儿的名声就很差了。好在72年上诉法庭推翻了此案的实质判决，也撤销了他跟不要钱一样发出去的藐视法庭的判决（光辩护律师就收获24枚）哦对了他还审过Lenny Bruce ，就是了不起的麦瑟尔夫人里的那个Lenny. 这样想一想斯坦福性侵案的法官在判决之后被下课也算是时代的进步了。当然，进步是美国的，xx什么也没有。
托马斯·杰斐逊：异议，才是爱国的最高形式~！
艾比·霍夫曼和汤姆·海登的那段对话说明了一种观点
1.性别、种族歧视赤裸裸的体现 2.反越战中的嬉皮士表象和文化政治革命内里 3.轰动一时的大事件也是由偶然的个体和必然的趋势引发的 4.当法制变成人治，弱小的一方有多难维权，公权力的滥用 5.永远都不要小瞧脱口秀演员。
可以感觉到挺好的，但是作为外语片这么大的信息量还是接受困难，只能明白个大概故事。不明觉厉吧
这样的电影能拍出来就值四星，不管美帝是否真如他所想要塑造的那样民主自由。不过也仅仅只能给四星，毕竟文化政治输出意图太明显。首先，越战停战只是因为美帝占不到便宜，耗不起了，所以才停战，如同去年他们与塔利班和解。其次，美国多么伟大，如今的美国“没有种族歧视，没有强权压迫，啊，伟大的美利坚，向你致敬”！
其实能够欣赏到这样的故事无非也是历史上“它”被翻身了，那些被管控，恶意压制的故事我们却一直没法看到。希望那些实施犯罪又暂时逃之夭夭的人终有恶报。
I have never been on trial for my thoughts before.
堂而皇之的公开践踏人权，在拥有第一修正案的美国尚且不能拿起法律武器来维护，可见人的权利的维护时时刻刻不能被忽视，被搁置，被让渡。电影最后一幕，当一个个名字被念出，那份真正的爱国者光辉光芒万丈。
那個時期青年反抗運動的訴求在於，不希望看到同胞們為了當政者的意識形態，而去參與一個不屬於公平正義、不屬於維護自己國家安全、不知為何而戰的戰爭行為，當然還有更重要的……Make Love Not War。
自由和权利之间的抗争是个永远不会结束的死循环。
本部电影的人物刻画从这一点来看，仍然有不足之处，挖掘得不够透彻，而法庭上的冲撞对决，插科打诨，很难说会有多少精彩之处。
我对政府的藐视，远没有它对我的藐视多。
换到现在的话说，如果批评和反对不自由，那么赞美和拥护无意义。
Bobby Seale
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