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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
老题材，跟风而已。不过表演实在精彩，喜欢看老戏骨戏的，肯定会很爱。
有点意思，最近关于死亡的主题越来越多，还都拍的不错
究竟是什么定义了“我”的存在，身体和记忆完全一致，生物连续性和社会连续性丝毫不影响，这难道不是“我”么？看起来百利无一害的选择，“我”有什么可抗拒呢？除了自私、领地概念，还有什么不可接受的呢？真喜欢这种未来社会细节啊，家居、无人汽车、手表都像是很快就能实现的
鬼魅浮生的克隆版 科幻外衣的爱情片 主要剧情都是讲记忆 对话很适合学口语 最后一句金句: i love you, always have always will.
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含泪看完了这部Apple TV+出品的电影，真的很感慨，整部电影的节奏十分缓慢但隔着屏幕都能深深感受到男主角在面临抉择时的痛苦和挣扎。如果未来的克隆技术真的发展到电影中的程度，即将死去的人会不会选用克隆人来代替自己来留在爱的人身边🤔
大智度论中有典故如此“如有一人，受使远行，独宿空舍。夜中有鬼担一死人来着其前，复有一鬼逐来，瞋骂前鬼：“是死人是我物，汝何以担来？”先鬼言：“是我物，我自持来。”后鬼言：“是死人实我担来！”二鬼各捉一手争之。前鬼言：“此有人可问。”后鬼即问：“是死人谁担来？”是人思惟：“此二鬼力大，若实语亦当死，若妄语亦当死，俱不免死，何为妄语？”语言：“前鬼担来。”后鬼大瞋，捉人手拔出着地，前鬼取死人一臂拊之即着。如是两臂、两脚、头、胁，举身皆易。于是二鬼共食所易人身，拭口而去。其人思惟：“我人母生身，眼见二鬼食尽，今我此身尽是他肉。我今定有身耶？为无身耶？若以为有，尽是他身；若以为无，今现有身。”如是思惟，其心迷闷，譬如狂人”
结尾女主向那男主表达爱意那一幕最让我有代入感。
主题立意还是有些探讨性的，结局很悲伤，但存有一丝悲怆的暖意……
一个很值得深思的话题，如果注定要离开，你愿意让另一个人完全取代你吗？很难选择，男主的表演很好很细腻
我是否接受被人代替这一点 我甚至都希望自己健全的时候有人愿意去代替我 她拿着我的身份 只要不像我那么爱逃跑 她没错我也没错 我不管现代科技把克隆体看做什么 我也不想去想她的感受 她是否想作为真正的人类 人类太自大了 毛发的生长指甲的长度 我们不想做不利于自己的牺牲 就算最后的牺牲也只是作为人类个体的消亡 自私又可笑
关于克隆，网飞会拍政治惊悚片，苹果拍了讨论死亡的家庭伦理片。这部电影很苹果风，不差但谈不上多好看。相比于复制，我认为记忆更应该一次性转移，毕竟记忆才是造就我们独一无二的原因，这样所带来的伦理风险也相对较小。
拍得很深沉，看得很犯困。美术设计倒是挺赞。
摄影好棒，配乐也很优秀。这些猜想终有一天会变成现实，有人接受不了，有人坦然面对一切。世事无常。只是在家庭成员的知情权上，是否有必要真正达成一致。
逝我而去
如果换了iphone se3，现在这部se我一定会珍藏
我觉得这个设想其实很沉重，大概就是善意的谎言和残忍的真相的博弈，主人公最后选择了善意的谎言，因为对妻子和孩子的爱。但我想我应该会选择残酷的真相，因为我觉得谎言永远都是谎言，人总是需要面对的，everything。
是不是一个梦
親人離開的悲痛也是人生體驗……
我也会拥有值得我复制出另一个我陪伴他们左右的人么。
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