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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
也就范伟的表演可以看了，张涵予真的毫无演技，角色同质化，另一种形式的霸道总裁式英雄。
氛围有了，感情戏缺失，各种直给的动作戏。没个像样的大反派，张涵予和范伟也无能为力，也不能把火车当反派吧。跟《悬崖之上》半斤八两，比《智取威虎山》差得不是一星半点。5
哈哈，反套路恐怖片。就是太厉害了这两个老东西。最后这小妹子还是出自邪教的怪不得这么厉害。
片头幻灯片的背景介绍仿佛是大家常规主旋律汇报ppt。影片会感觉铺垫过久，意图是好的，但没做好。关键铺垫的点都没铺垫上，在矛盾的推进过程中基本就重复推进，主线人物劫车，反派布防，各走各的线，只是时间在推进，铺垫的的生涩，导演的意图是很好的，但功力不太够。在塑造人物方面，主人公像是在执行任务的工具人，而不是活灵活现的人，生活细节并没有让撑起人物的性格，导致主线人物功能性占比过大，人物缺少灵魂。场景的风格和故事也不太搭，有些风格化过度了，例如火车站的风雪场景，有点奇幻了，这样让故事仿佛是发生在一个特定虚构场景。有点可惜范老师的表演了，很多人物的戏剧动作都让人物减分了。类型片不见得要把人物类型到脸谱化，好的类型片人物一定都是“活”的。导演继续努力。
就是很纯粹的不好看，导演编剧都有问题。节奏拖沓，漏洞不少，揉了不少谍照元素进去也只流于表面，反倒是最重要的劫火车这件事既不紧张刺激又缺乏战术配合拍得非常糟糕。张涵予完全沦为工具人，白瞎了范伟老师的好演技。
开头10分钟太凌乱。
范伟是个好演员啊，可惜电影太扁平了，比较乏味。
最后成功完成组织交托的任务。
【6.5】可以看出性是个挺神秘的东西，让片中每个人为之着迷。再就是一场致敬经典老片的盛宴了，有点见怪不怪，现在的片子真是怎么拍都是“关于电影的电影”。（老人居然也是女主演的...）
电影质感很足，但是剧情过于平淡，角色也都没怎么立起来，情感比较难代入。总体还算精致吧，足以给饱受抗日神剧荼毒的观众洗眼，新时代这样的电影有必要更多。
就把山东拍得跟东北一样，天天下雪。不飘雪还拍不成电影了这是？
爱国热血！
满脸雀斑的女人真够丑的，化妆也不太真实，老太太明显是年轻人演的，那煞笔女的在男朋友极力反对的情形下去演A片被人干真是脑回路惊奇。
也就范伟的表演可以看了，张涵予真的毫无演技，角色同质化，另一种形式的霸道总裁式英雄。
视听层面有想法，有点像追求70年代B级片的LowFi质感，但叙事方面有些差
范伟演技很好，张涵予天生的军人硬汉形象。
太平淡了，怪不得评分不高票房不佳，导演虽然作品不多但是影像风格还是有的，可惜节奏和内容把控较差，没有拍出大家想看到的铁道英雄。
伪精致废片。不把范伟和小烧煤工作为主线人物，是最大的失败。冒险去掏申请书那段，几乎是新时代的“从胸口左内兜掏出带血的两块钱记得给我把 费交上”。废车厢宣誓那段，音乐几乎把影厅房顶子给掀了。这就是华谊拍《八佰》之后要付的代价吗？
昨天去看了 真的感觉范伟老师演的太好啦 我全程都被他带动 哪怕一个背影立在那里都是可以传达出情绪的
卡司应该说让人满意，问题在于剧本的叙事上散而无神，好像讲了很多东西，又没有一个主要的东西，如果单纯把历次游击劫掠变成一个单纯的任务可能就可以通过时间线把整个故事的紧张度和目的性提高。关于老王这个角色，就日军开局这种宁杀错不放过，怎么会放老王撅起到这么关键的情报，就算是为了钓鱼，这样的损失也太大了，难道不应该立刻处理吗？日军这个头目被刻画的又精明又自大又傲慢，结果当然可想而知。我始终觉得我们现在的电影人在刻画日军的时候太文青了，难道不应该着重于刻画他们的残忍吗？不知道还以为在演日本队长呢
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